Comments on: Liberals becoming Social Democrats – as if it would matter http://www.markobucik.eu/liberals-becoming-social-democrats-as-if-it-would-matter/ Why not? Thu, 25 Aug 2011 08:39:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Marko Bucik » An early season of transfers - setting the stage for autumn elections http://www.markobucik.eu/liberals-becoming-social-democrats-as-if-it-would-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-1527 Marko Bucik » An early season of transfers - setting the stage for autumn elections Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:52:48 +0000 http://www.markobucik.eu/?p=39#comment-1527 [...] quite recently actually. Just remember the former Prime Minister Tone Rop leaving the Liberals and jumping on the boat of soon-to-be-winners Social Democrats. Well, he was not the only one then, it was a more serious issue that followed the near dissolution [...] [...] quite recently actually. Just remember the former Prime Minister Tone Rop leaving the Liberals and jumping on the boat of soon-to-be-winners Social Democrats. Well, he was not the only one then, it was a more serious issue that followed the near dissolution [...]

]]> By: Marko http://www.markobucik.eu/liberals-becoming-social-democrats-as-if-it-would-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-61 Marko Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:59:37 +0000 http://www.markobucik.eu/?p=39#comment-61 True, I agree with most that you have written. But I wonder if they could have done differently in the first years of independence. Managing a country coming from socialism had to include more socially oriented policies...The question is why they haven't changed progressively towards 2000 and the later entry into the EU. I have opened this debate in <a href="http://www.markobucik.eu/?p=16" rel="nofollow">a previous post</a> and I wonder what you think about a smaller and "clean" LDS might bring a liberal party to Slovenia? True, I agree with most that you have written. But I wonder if they could have done differently in the first years of independence. Managing a country coming from socialism had to include more socially oriented policies…The question is why they haven’t changed progressively towards 2000 and the later entry into the EU.

I have opened this debate in a previous post and I wonder what you think about a smaller and “clean” LDS might bring a liberal party to Slovenia?

]]> By: Tomaž http://www.markobucik.eu/liberals-becoming-social-democrats-as-if-it-would-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-60 Tomaž Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:30:23 +0000 http://www.markobucik.eu/?p=39#comment-60 It shows that so called "liberals" were only liberal in their name. From the beginning they promoted big government, national interests in economy, political interventions, high taxes, scandinavian models and other issues that would normally be attributed to neosocialists. It seems that they forgot that they live in Europe, where liberal means classic liberal and not in America where it translates into philosophical socialist. It's good that they are gone. They were giving liberalism bad name; people started to identify it with socialism. It shows that so called “liberals” were only liberal in their name. From the beginning they promoted big government, national interests in economy, political interventions, high taxes, scandinavian models and other issues that would normally be attributed to neosocialists. It seems that they forgot that they live in Europe, where liberal means classic liberal and not in America where it translates into philosophical socialist.
It’s good that they are gone. They were giving liberalism bad name; people started to identify it with socialism.

]]> By: jure http://www.markobucik.eu/liberals-becoming-social-democrats-as-if-it-would-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-59 jure Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:39:07 +0000 http://www.markobucik.eu/?p=39#comment-59 Hey! I couldn't have agreed more with you on this topic. It is in a way frustrating to see that our politics has not been able to consolidate on ideological lines in 17 years. That someone can just jump from liberal to socialist in a day just comes to show that most of our main politicians have no ideological backbone but only egoistic pragmatic interests where they're only interested in staying in politics on nicely paid jobs. There's also one thing that now finally became obvious. That is, that LDS has never been a political party in a proper sense. Just a conglomerate of individualistic interests with an aim to be in power and get as much as they could from that. It all fell apart when the leader who served as a focal point for everyone decided to leave. There is sth for SD to learn from LDS story of collapse. If Pahor decides to leave them and run for president they will collapse too and then the left oriented part of slovenian population, which in my opinion is still larger then the right oriented, will basically have no one to vote for. Nice really. Hey!
I couldn’t have agreed more with you on this topic. It is in a way frustrating to see that our politics has not been able to consolidate on ideological lines in 17 years. That someone can just jump from liberal to socialist in a day just comes to show that most of our main politicians have no ideological backbone but only egoistic pragmatic interests where they’re only interested in staying in politics on nicely paid jobs. There’s also one thing that now finally became obvious. That is, that LDS has never been a political party in a proper sense. Just a conglomerate of individualistic interests with an aim to be in power and get as much as they could from that. It all fell apart when the leader who served as a focal point for everyone decided to leave.
There is sth for SD to learn from LDS story of collapse. If Pahor decides to leave them and run for president they will collapse too and then the left oriented part of slovenian population, which in my opinion is still larger then the right oriented, will basically have no one to vote for. Nice really.

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